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AMERICAN PIT BULL TERRIER with Pedigree ¿Yes or No?
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AMERICAN PIT BULL TERRIER with Pedigree ¿Yes or No?                                             By Mariano Peinado. 2014/04/02     (En ESPAÑOL) Screen Resolution 1280 X 800 Pixels                        The only American Pit Bull Terrier (APBT or Pit Bull) Oficial Pedigree to International scope, is the Pedigree of theAmerican Dog Breeders Association (ADBA)The American Dog Breeders Association (ADBA), is the Canine Mother to International scope of the breed dog American Pit Bull Terrier.AMERICAN DOG BREEDERS ASSOCIATION (ADBA)  Fhone: USA - 801-936-7513   e-mail:  BSTOFSHW@ADBA.CCTo the question AMERICAN PIT BULL TERRIER with Pedigree ¿Yes or No? Absolutely and definitely YES and to understand the reasons why there are in nowadays some malicious swindlers (and some gossipers, ignorant, charlatans, without personality nor own criteria, with delusions of grandeur and wisdom), which discredit unfairly almost all about the American Pit Bull Terrier, for lie to the fans more and better always to their own benefit, I'll give my view looking into the matter step by step. These elements without a minimum of ethics and education mock and discredit the Pedigrees, where the word and honor have been put by thousands of breeders of yesteryear and today; They mock and discredit the Canine Mother of the breed, the ADBA; They mock and discredit the work of a lifetime of several breeders like Maurice Carver; And they mock and discredit any other matter that would can reach unmask their real intention, which is none other thing than to deceive and try to convince the greatest possible amount of fans, to get bring them to their way like if the APBT fan being sheep, to swindle them later in one or another way. To say, I have tried to be as neutral as I have been able preparing my view in this subject. By other way, to say clear that I do not come to this place to CONVINCE anyone, since I believe that to want to try to convince someone is not honest nor correct. I believe that to want to try convince anyone is equivalent to try to wanting to manipulate their thought, try to limit the freedom of the individual people to think and do what they wish and I believe that to do it, is not correct. Excuse me my bad English, since I practical it very little and is hard for me to explain it to you in English.I respect the point of view of anyone who wants to expose it and I hope that also respect the mine, and lot or a little, we all learn from each other with respect, good intentions and truth. Due to the complexity of this subject, my view consists in Introduction and two sections, the 1 and 2.                                                                   INTRODUCTION The breeders with head in his place and with a minimal knowledge, know abundantly that is more important to get quality of dogs that we breed that the quality that it could have in the ADBA Pedigree (paper), hence the saying that the dog does the Pedigree and not vice versa. But if a dog is bred in a real way, its breeding should be reflected with the details of breeding and recorded in a written document, and what better way than in an official document, its Official Pedigree (paper) Why not? If we are doing the right thing inthe true way, What fear exists for not doing it so? But it is also true that although these two concepts are complementary to each other (Dog and Pedigree), and also the Pedigree will be a great and necessary tool for the control and the study of the breeders with the Pit Bull of his own breeding or like any other, are concepts that have nothing to do with each other and some people for obvious reasons, want to mix to confuse the novice fan and to can swindle better.                                                                                 Floyd Boudreaux and James Crenshaw, two great breeders oldtimers backing to the ADBA in one of its Conformation events. Although the dogs is a concept and Pedigrees (papers) other different concept, It would be a strong mistake to forget the Pedigree (papers) when professionally we breed a breed dog like the American Pit Bull Terrier (APBT or Pit Bull), where fraudsters of both sides (breeders with papers and breeders without papers) take advantage to get confuse to the fans, trying to convince them and try to take them to the place that suits them, his place. The problem that there are scammers breeders with or without pedigree (with or without papers), it not mean that will be fault of the breed in self nor mean that it will be the fault of the Canine Mother of the breed, the ADBA, rather it is the fault of those that are doing the disgusting practice of counterfeiting or lying. Also not only occur with the breed dog American Pit Bull Terrier. This is a problem that occurs with any other breed of Dogs, Cats, Horses, Roosters, Cows, etc. and in none way means that be have to justify the discredit of the Official Pedigree of each one of the pure breeds existing, because some people are irresponsible and malicious, Right? Let's be sensible, coherent and with a little common sense please. What happens is that some of the “breeders” that have no pedigree or papers in his dogs, they want to DISCREDIT the Pedigree how either to sell better their dogs and not because they want to defend the interests or conserve the breed like many of them claim. They are scammers and a very clever and subtle way they do much damage to the breed. To say that some bad “breeders” who sell their dogs with pedigree or papers, also do enough damage to the breed, of course. http://www.fiapbt.net/sdr.html  What is very clear, is that all breeds dogs for considered Official and Legally like pure breed dogs, the individuals belonging to each one of it must prove its Pedigrees of the Mother Canine which they belong, which supports Zootechnical Rigor, Official and Legally its purity of breed. Otherwise, those breeders who breed their animals without Pedigree, although them affirm their racial purity and in some cases probably will be true, in terms Breeding, Official and Legal will be not validate, since in these Breeding, Official and Legal terms although their animals are so pure, will be considered it like mixed breed or not purebred, by not credit its Official Pedigree where is credited in all possible ways like racial purity or pure breed.                                             Ralph Greenwood (R.I.P.)                             History of the ADBA: http://www.adbadog.com/p_pdetails.asp?fpid=2&pg=2 What has always more valued the ADBA with the APBT in its breeding selection, with the support the most respected professional breeders - dogmen, has been the good character, functionality, the attitude, heart or balanced behavior and positive in every way, not keeping in mind at all the beauty of the esthetics of the dogs of this breed like yes is done it in the majority of others breed dogs since many time ago. Consequently to this last and in the course of time, gave place that this breed dog, the American Pit Bull Terrier, follow conserving the originals values for which was created and this is the great difference that exists nowadays among the APBT and the other breed dogs. For all the good work about conservation of the pure breed by the ADBA, in the year 2000 definitely to called the ADBA like the Canine Mother at International scope of the breed dog American Pit Bull Terrier. Another thing very different to the Pedigree or papers, is Who is better?, if the APBT that have or not have pedigree. Common sense tells me that this is not relevant for the answer, since both APBT with pedigree or APBT without pedigree provided they are purebred, in principle will be to the 50% chance to be better, because they are different concepts like I told in the beginning, but if we have our dogs with the Official Pedigree, we help among all to conserve and vindicate the purity of the breed dog American Pit Bull Terrier in Legal and official way that makes much needed, in order to be properly defended against the many different enemies that has and are constantly lurking anywhere in the world. When you feel inside of your veins truely the American Pit Bull Terrier, you feel love, you feel passion, you feel something indescribable by the breed for various reasons. The reason that one could want an doggie of this breed dog in his life is not important, as long as you do not mistreat it and yes be offered it the adequate life with all their needs, cares and much love. To Work, for Sport, family dog (Pet dog)​​ or all this altogether also is ideal, is the best. @ THE AMERICAN PIT BULL TERRIER, A PURE BREED DOG: http://www.fiapbt.net/purebreeddog.htm @ APBT OFFICIAL PEDIGREE: http://www.fiapbt.net/officialpedigree.html   @  VIDEO. THE ELI DOGS FUNDATION, BOUDREAUX' ELI - THE LEGEND: http://youtu.be/rwICO0MPc78@ Whence comes the black color to the ELI / CARVER / BOUDREAUX dogs, being that they are all Tudor's "DIBO" family and "DIBO" was buckskin color? - THE HENRY DOGS:www.fiapbt.net/black.html                                                                SECTIONS 1 and 2 SECTION 1º - The ADBA is the Canine Mother to International scope and the institution that handles the Official Pedigree (papers) to the American Pit Bull Terrier purebredanywhere in the world.            ADBA Conformation event in Canada.                                                                                       ADBA Conformation event in Italy.                                                                                            ADBA Conformation event in Spain. ADBA Official Judge Mr. Daniele Rizzacasa from Italy.                                                                                   As an example of the efforts that the ADBA are doing to maintain the TRUTH and the PURITY in the dogs of our breed dog, to say that the ADBA in many dogs of T. Garner does not give him the Pedigree (papers) because are false, being this the reason why T. Garner did his own "registry". Therefore, if the ADBA is who give the Official Pedigree (papers) and some dishonest breeders do not give them, this would mean that the Official Pedigree (papers) protects the TRUTH and the PURITY the breed in many cases.http://www.fiapbt.net/sdr.html                                                                                              ADBA Conformation event in Colombia. The work developed by the ADBA by the Pit Bull, is very important, necessary and beneficial for the breed and their true fans. It is true and it is clear that the ADBA does this work within their means and can not get it the 100%, since the ADBA can not control with all the cheats and liars, but this problem is not the fault of the ADBA, this is fault of some false and unscrupulous people, that doing the disgusting practice of forgery and deceit, being in nowadays exactly the same problem plaguing to the rest of Canine Mothers of any other breed of Dogs, Cats, Horses, Roosters, Cows, etc. and in none way means that be have to justify the discredit of the Official Pedigree of each one of the pure breeds existing, because some people are irresponsible and malicious, Right?               ADBA Conformation event in Spain. Judge Mr. Luigi Bezzi.                         ADBA Conformation Event in USA, celebrating the 100th Anniversary of the ADBA (1909 - 2009)                                                             ADBA Conformation event in South Africa. ADBA Official Judge Mr. Hank Greenwood from USA.  It is also true that the ADBA within of its registry, some malicious people have cast some mixed dogs and Bullies like Pit Bull pure, but this is something that currently own theADBA is researching and studying, to override the pedigree of those dogs that get find and certainly are not American Pit Bull Terrier purebred. This ADBA attitude in my point of view, it is humbling to recognize such error and is also commendable to rectify the mistakes, despite stop receiving money to perform various applications, they would have received if they had not rectified the errors. This attitude on the part of those who run the ADBA, in my opinion it is aimed to a great conservation and welfare of purebred and their fans. I think that any fan that feel real love for the pure breed dog American Pit Bull Terrier, they should feel happy and grateful to the ADBAfor the enormous and laborious work done by our dogs since the year 1909. THANKS!!!     Pit Bull Pedigree (papers) = ADBA = Pit Bull Canine Mother at International scope = Pedigrees control and not validate false Pedigrees = Excellent and honest ADBA job trying to keep the TRUTH and maintain alive the Official Genealogy of the breed in over the time = Keep alive Officially the Pit Bull defence in various aspects, so that the children of our grandchildren will can continue enjoying them when the time comes. In the ADBA, not only competes in Weight Pulling and Conformation events, also are doing ADBA “Top Dog” event: http://www.adbadog.com/p_pdeta....                                                     Left to right “MISS PATCHES” (“DINAMITA”), “RED AKER” and “RED KROM” SECTION 2º - I think that is easy and very coward throw rocks toward to the honor and the work of a lifetime of the people, especially when they can not longer to defence himself for to be dead. In nowadays, some malicious swindlers (and some gossipers, ignorant, charlatans, without personality nor own criteria, with delusions of grandeur and wisdom), which discredit unfairly excellent APBT genetic (APBT bloodlines) that currently exist, for the simple fact that come from Carver and dogs from other breeders. The reason for many of these injuries is to get now to sell better the dogs of the people who injure, among other interests. Usually, the dogs of these individuals come from other different genetic that them injuries, because considering them a strong competition for them, or simply because them are not unaware where come their dogs, without even knowing if it are purebred or not, but that gives them just, so long to get his objective, swindle and have a deplorable attitude.                             Maurice Carver with “STOMPANATO”                                                                                                     These elements without a minimum of ethics and education mock and discredit the Pedigrees, where the word and honor have been put by thousands of breeders of yesteryear and today; They mock and discredit the Canine Mother of the breed, the ADBA; They mock and discredit the work of a lifetime of several breeders like Maurice Carver; And they mock and discredit any other matter that would can reach unmask their real intention, which is none other thing than to deceive and try to convince the greatest possible amount of fans, to get bring them to their way like if the APBT fan being sheep, to swindle them later in one or another way. I'm not saying that Carver was a saint, no, but if in nowadays we take for valid what say some gossipers without evidences, that Maurice Carver falsified pedigrees, then F. Boudreaux, R. Morales, Womack, Mountain man, Dany Burton, Weldon Stockton, Dwight Stubbs, Ronnie Hyde, Don Maloney, Eddie Klaus, James Crenshaw, David Koehlers, Enrique Morfin, Jim Twardowski (R Gang 's), Gary Hammonds, William Lacefield, Pat Patrick, Sorrells, Don Mayfield, Greenwood, O. Stevens, Mc. Cool, and many other honest and reputable breeders – dogmen of the time, which many of their dogs come from dogs Carver, and then and in the same and unjust rule of three that anybody has been exposing here and others places against Carver, also we must assume that all these dogmen named are equally counterfeiters and fraudsters, because his dogs descended from Carver dogs, and if here and now there are people who claim that Carver was a liar for falsified pedigrees, these honest breeders – dogmen that I mentioned also would knew it, and them should know it better, with more certainty and reliability that those that are saying injuries against Carver here and now in 2014, Right? Let´s be serious, gentlemen!!! If the breeders – dogmen that I mentioned before and others many more, to put his word and honor in his Pedigrees (papers) like had been performing throughout life, giving faith like TRUTH the Pedigrees ADBA of their dogs, is another more way to show that the Carver dogs that appeared like ancestors of their dogs in the Pedigree (papers), was certainly TRUTH the way they were bred and not lie like say some gossipers.                                                                Examples a, b, c, d, e, about this last:                                               R. Morales and his son with "LUPE". Morales was the greatest exponent introducer of "The BLACKS" in Mexico. a) BOUDREAUX' “LUPE” was an excellent female bred by Maurice Carver, which Carver gave it to R. Morales, a friend of his close circle, and R. Morales when he abandoned the dogs gave "LUPE" like Gift to his friend F. Boudreaux. This is a very reliable way to understanding that R. Morales and F. Boudreaux attested that Carver was an honest breeder, because by using in his own breeding R. Morales and F. Boudreaux dogs from Carver, is because they relied on the Carver's honesty like breeder, because otherwise, they would both equally attesting that they were also forgers Pedigrees or at least that accept this disgusting practice, which comes to be the same thing.BOUDREAUX' “LUPE” FIAPBT Pedigree Online: http://www.fiapbtpedigree.com/imprimi....4114 Or the same with BOUDREAUX´ “T-BELL”.BOUDREAUX´ “T-BELL” FIAPBT Pedigree Online: http://www.fiapbtpedigree.com/imprimi....4129 Or equally with “MIDNIGHT COWBOY”.“MIDNIGHT COWBOY” FIAPBT Pedigree Online: http://www.fiapbtpedigree.com/imprimi....6 b) If GREENWOOD'S "RUBEN", which was an excellent animal, whose grandparents were Carver dogs, is a way to show that Greenwood testified that Carver was an honest breeder, because by using in their own breeding a dogs from Carver, was because he trust in the honesty of Carver like breeder, because otherwise, he would be giving equal validity posthumously, that it was also a forger Pedigrees or at least accept this disgusting practice, which comes to be the same thing.GREENWOOD'S “RUBEN” FIAPBT Pedigree Online: http://www.fiapbtpedigree.com/imprimi....2 c) If the maternal grandmother Dog of Don Mayfield called "PIT GENERAL" was a bitch bred by Maurice Carver, is a way to show that Don Mayfield testified that Carver was an honest breeder, because by using in their own breeding a dogs from Carver, was because he trust in the honesty of Carver like breeder, because otherwise, he would be giving equal validity posthumously, that it was also a forger Pedigrees or at least accept this disgusting practice, which comes to be the same thing.MAYFIELD'S (BURTON) “PIT GENERAL” FIAPBT Pedigree Online: http://www.fiapbtpedigree.com/imprimi....6386 Or equally, if the maternal grandmother of Don Mayfield female called MAYFIELD'S "SPRING" was a bitch bred by Maurice Carver, is a other similar way to show that posthumously Mayfield testified that Carver was an honest breeder.MAYFIELD'S “SPRING” FIAPBT Pedigree Online: http://www.fiapbtpedigree.com/imprimi....42   Or equally, if the maternal and paternal grandmother of Don Mayfield female called MAYFIELD'S "GATOR" was a bitch bred by Maurice Carver, is other way to show that posthumously Mayfield testified that Carver was an honest breeder.MAYFIELD'S “GATOR” FIAPBT Pedigree Online: http://www.fiapbtpedigree.com/imprimi....7    Or equally with MAYFIELD'S “SNAKE 2”.MAYFIELD'S “GATOR” FIAPBT Pedigree Online: http://www.fiapbtpedigree.com/imprimi....         Some of the best breeders - dogmen oldtimers of the breed history, which backed to the ADBA registering their dogs in the ADBA. Left to right and up; Leo Kinard, Maurice Carver, Bert Clouse in the back of Earl Tudor, Bob Hemphill, Bob Wallace, George Saddler. Down; Floyd Boudreaux, Rob Lewis, Don Maloney and Scotty Nelson. Photo taken Oct. 29, 1966.d) Even I also put into question my honesty, by the unjust rule of three that some gossipers with bad intention have exposed lightly in public places, because I use some 100% Carver dogs in much of my breeding Villa Liberty kennels, for example VILLA LIBERTY'S "TUDOR DIBO".For the part that touches me and although I said that in my opinion Maurice Carver was not a saint, I have no evidences that justify that Maurice Carver falsified Pedigrees. If I had any proof about it, of course I would not have decided to breed and select Carver dogs since 30 years ago. By contrast, over time yes I've had enough evidences that there have been and there are some gossips with bad intention, a pity especially for them... VILLA LIBERTY'S “TUDOR DIBO” FIAPBT Pedigree Online: http://www.fiapbtpedigree.com/imprimi....  e) Or equally for example, attested for the Maurice Carver honesty those breeders who used in their respective breedings in one or another way the followings American Pit Bull Terrier: CARVER´S (KLAUS) “ZEKE,”CARVER'S (HYDE´S) SATCH, (CARVER'S) LONG´S BABY  (mother of MIDNIGHT COWBOY ) , (CARVER´s) HYDE´S “BLOODY SUNDAY”,(CARVER'S) HUNTER´S SAM , CARVER'S (MORFIN) RED LADY, (CARVER'S) TOM´S BIG BLACK, HOOTEN'S BUTCHER BOY , (CARVER'S) HUNTER TANA,(CARVER´S ) DAVIS´ BOOMERANG , (CARVER'S) LONG´S TUFFY, (CARVER´S) R. MORALES´ BLACK LADY (NEGRITA), LARA'S ODIN (CARVER & MORFIN),CARVER´S (MORALES´) ALACRAN, (CARVER´S) ROREX'  BLACK LADY,  (CARVER´S) INDIAN BOLIO, (CARVER´S) HUNTER'S RED BUCK, HOOTEN'S'  SNAKE,STINSON'S TUFFY, (CARVER´S) CLAYTON'S JAVA, And many more: http://www.villaliberty.org/criacarver.htm Personally I have never believed in the gossipers, nor in the gossipers that repeat like parrots with bad intention about what they heard saying by others gossipers with misconduct for personal gain and so on. I do not believe anything about these unfair and cowardly gossip against the breeders - dogmen that I mentioned before. About the breeders - dogmen already mentioned, yes I do believe in their work of a lifetime dedicated to the American Pit Bull Terrier and especially I believe in his excellent dogs, both ascending scale as the descendant of their Official Pedigrees (papers), because if they Registered all their Pit Bull with its ADBA Official pedigree, would be by a some important reason, Right? All they would have answered with a YES to the question of AMERICAN PIT BULL TERRIER with Pedigree ¿Yes or No? Recall and enjoy with part of the work and with some major great moments in the Silver Fox life with the American Pit Bull Terrier, Maurice Carver:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4DnGJAMZDw&hl=es&gl=ES -- http://www.fiapbt.net/museumc....-- http sometimes the worst enemy of the breed are not the people anti Pit Bull, PETA, the mass media, politicians, the fci, the akc, or BSL, no, sometimes the worst enemy of the breed are some of his own "fans", which are not really fans of the breed, they are fans of the easy money, to the deceit, to the not correct, to the misconduct and fraud.                                         TRIBUTE TO Mr. D. STUBBS                                         May 30, 1998, Phoenix, Arizona, U.S.A., The “DIBO´s” cradleIn the picture, Mariano Peinado with his good friend Mr. Dwight Stubbs, with his dog “DIBO´s” family called Heinzl´s (Stubbs) "Ollie” with the same color buckskin from "DIBO".  "Ollie” was at that time 12 years, he was a great reproducer. "Ollie” was the father of very good dogs such as Nowell's “Lil Independent”, (Stubbs) "Mrs. Heinzl”, etc. "Ollie" was still alive at that time, was one of the best American Pit Bull Terrier bred by the Reverend Howard Heinzl. Mr. Stubbs, kept the dogs and the genetics of his good friend the Reverend when he died in 1989 of stomach cancer. Mr. Stubbs also enjoyed much breeding descendants of Carver's  (Davis) “Midnight Cowboy”, from Boudreaux' “Maverick”." Mr. Stubbs, a great dogmen and exceptional people, all a gentleman. Good job Mr. Stubbs!!! Thank you!!! It makes no sense to have an attitude always on the defensive, for a wrong that alleged to have not committed, Right? Unless, that yes has committed or will be want to committing something bad and then, all this yes have a logical reason that attitude, of being defensive for to lie more and better.In Spain there is a saying, "The thief thinks everyone is like him." I believe that honesty and truth exist today more than ever in many people and in many breeders, and for much effort and many times that put some people to saying otherwise, it will not mean that they are right. I believe that everyone creates and runs their own destiny, based on their attitude and on the DECISIONS that is taking every day in their life. You decide!!!  I hope and I wish that no one will take the hint by my words with this work, because my intention was not to offend or upset anyone in particular, I just tried to contribute positively and humbly with my review from the heart and with good intentions, for the fans and especially for our dogs. Finally say, that given the large amount of diverse information that I offer in this work, it may be that there is some imprecision of some kind, if it is so, I apologize in advance.However, I have a great satisfaction to understand that the main essence of the message of this work, which I wanted to make, has been well exposed enough, with my wish to try that bury absurd old grudges between some people and all together, the real fans of the breed dog American Pit Bull Terrier with good intentions, with the ADBA all together we will work properly for the future of the breed, so that the children of our grandchildren can also continue to enjoy with these noble and wonderful animals forever.         THANK YOU!!!        Mariano Peinado     IADCRO & FIAPBT@ FIAPBT RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE FUTURE OWNERS OF AMERICAN PIT BULL TERRIER@ THE AMERICAN PIT BULL TERRIER ORIGINS: http://www.fiapbt.net/origins.html  @ WHY DO SOME PEOPLE THINK THE APBT IS NOT A RECOGNIZED BREED? http://www.fiapbt.net/notrecognized.html 

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AMERICAN PIT BULL TERRIER with Pedigree ¿Yes or No?                                             By Mariano Peinado. 2014/04/02     (En ESPAÑOL) Screen Resolution 1280 X 800 Pixels                        The only American Pit Bull Terrier (APBT or Pit Bull) Oficial Pedigree to International scope, is the Pedigree of theAmerican Dog Breeders Association (ADBA)The American Dog Breeders Association (ADBA), is the Canine Mother to International scope of the breed dog American Pit Bull Terrier.AMERICAN DOG BREEDERS ASSOCIATION (ADBA)  Fhone: USA - 801-936-7513   e-mail:  BSTOFSHW@ADBA.CCTo the question AMERICAN PIT BULL TERRIER with Pedigree ¿Yes or No? Absolutely and definitely YES and to understand the reasons why there are in nowadays some malicious swindlers (and some gossipers, ignorant, charlatans, without personality nor own criteria, with delusions of grandeur and wisdom), which discredit unfairly almost all about the American Pit Bull Terrier, for lie to the fans more and better always to their own benefit, I'll give my view looking into the matter step by step. These elements without a minimum of ethics and education mock and discredit the Pedigrees, where the word and honor have been put by thousands of breeders of yesteryear and today; They mock and discredit the Canine Mother of the breed, the ADBA; They mock and discredit the work of a lifetime of several breeders like Maurice Carver; And they mock and discredit any other matter that would can reach unmask their real intention, which is none other thing than to deceive and try to convince the greatest possible amount of fans, to get bring them to their way like if the APBT fan being sheep, to swindle them later in one or another way. To say, I have tried to be as neutral as I have been able preparing my view in this subject. By other way, to say clear that I do not come to this place to CONVINCE anyone, since I believe that to want to try to convince someone is not honest nor correct. I believe that to want to try convince anyone is equivalent to try to wanting to manipulate their thought, try to limit the freedom of the individual people to think and do what they wish and I believe that to do it, is not correct. Excuse me my bad English, since I practical it very little and is hard for me to explain it to you in English.I respect the point of view of anyone who wants to expose it and I hope that also respect the mine, and lot or a little, we all learn from each other with respect, good intentions and truth. Due to the complexity of this subject, my view consists in Introduction and two sections, the 1 and 2.                                                                   INTRODUCTION The breeders with head in his place and with a minimal knowledge, know abundantly that is more important to get quality of dogs that we breed that the quality that it could have in the ADBA Pedigree (paper), hence the saying that the dog does the Pedigree and not vice versa. But if a dog is bred in a real way, its breeding should be reflected with the details of breeding and recorded in a written document, and what better way than in an official document, its Official Pedigree (paper) Why not? If we are doing the right thing inthe true way, What fear exists for not doing it so? But it is also true that although these two concepts are complementary to each other (Dog and Pedigree), and also the Pedigree will be a great and necessary tool for the control and the study of the breeders with the Pit Bull of his own breeding or like any other, are concepts that have nothing to do with each other and some people for obvious reasons, want to mix to confuse the novice fan and to can swindle better.                                                                                 Floyd Boudreaux and James Crenshaw, two great breeders oldtimers backing to the ADBA in one of its Conformation events. Although the dogs is a concept and Pedigrees (papers) other different concept, It would be a strong mistake to forget the Pedigree (papers) when professionally we breed a breed dog like the American Pit Bull Terrier (APBT or Pit Bull), where fraudsters of both sides (breeders with papers and breeders without papers) take advantage to get confuse to the fans, trying to convince them and try to take them to the place that suits them, his place. The problem that there are scammers breeders with or without pedigree (with or without papers), it not mean that will be fault of the breed in self nor mean that it will be the fault of the Canine Mother of the breed, the ADBA, rather it is the fault of those that are doing the disgusting practice of counterfeiting or lying. Also not only occur with the breed dog American Pit Bull Terrier. This is a problem that occurs with any other breed of Dogs, Cats, Horses, Roosters, Cows, etc. and in none way means that be have to justify the discredit of the Official Pedigree of each one of the pure breeds existing, because some people are irresponsible and malicious, Right? Let's be sensible, coherent and with a little common sense please. What happens is that some of the “breeders” that have no pedigree or papers in his dogs, they want to DISCREDIT the Pedigree how either to sell better their dogs and not because they want to defend the interests or conserve the breed like many of them claim. They are scammers and a very clever and subtle way they do much damage to the breed. To say that some bad “breeders” who sell their dogs with pedigree or papers, also do enough damage to the breed, of course. http://www.fiapbt.net/sdr.html  What is very clear, is that all breeds dogs for considered Official and Legally like pure breed dogs, the individuals belonging to each one of it must prove its Pedigrees of the Mother Canine which they belong, which supports Zootechnical Rigor, Official and Legally its purity of breed. Otherwise, those breeders who breed their animals without Pedigree, although them affirm their racial purity and in some cases probably will be true, in terms Breeding, Official and Legal will be not validate, since in these Breeding, Official and Legal terms although their animals are so pure, will be considered it like mixed breed or not purebred, by not credit its Official Pedigree where is credited in all possible ways like racial purity or pure breed.                                             Ralph Greenwood (R.I.P.)                             History of the ADBA: http://www.adbadog.com/p_pdetails.asp?fpid=2&pg=2 What has always more valued the ADBA with the APBT in its breeding selection, with the support the most respected professional breeders - dogmen, has been the good character, functionality, the attitude, heart or balanced behavior and positive in every way, not keeping in mind at all the beauty of the esthetics of the dogs of this breed like yes is done it in the majority of others breed dogs since many time ago. Consequently to this last and in the course of time, gave place that this breed dog, the American Pit Bull Terrier, follow conserving the originals values for which was created and this is the great difference that exists nowadays among the APBT and the other breed dogs. For all the good work about conservation of the pure breed by the ADBA, in the year 2000 definitely to called the ADBA like the Canine Mother at International scope of the breed dog American Pit Bull Terrier. Another thing very different to the Pedigree or papers, is Who is better?, if the APBT that have or not have pedigree. Common sense tells me that this is not relevant for the answer, since both APBT with pedigree or APBT without pedigree provided they are purebred, in principle will be to the 50% chance to be better, because they are different concepts like I told in the beginning, but if we have our dogs with the Official Pedigree, we help among all to conserve and vindicate the purity of the breed dog American Pit Bull Terrier in Legal and official way that makes much needed, in order to be properly defended against the many different enemies that has and are constantly lurking anywhere in the world. When you feel inside of your veins truely the American Pit Bull Terrier, you feel love, you feel passion, you feel something indescribable by the breed for various reasons. The reason that one could want an doggie of this breed dog in his life is not important, as long as you do not mistreat it and yes be offered it the adequate life with all their needs, cares and much love. To Work, for Sport, family dog (Pet dog)​​ or all this altogether also is ideal, is the best. @ THE AMERICAN PIT BULL TERRIER, A PURE BREED DOG: http://www.fiapbt.net/purebreeddog.htm @ APBT OFFICIAL PEDIGREE: http://www.fiapbt.net/officialpedigree.html   @  VIDEO. THE ELI DOGS FUNDATION, BOUDREAUX' ELI - THE LEGEND: http://youtu.be/rwICO0MPc78@ Whence comes the black color to the ELI / CARVER / BOUDREAUX dogs, being that they are all Tudor's "DIBO" family and "DIBO" was buckskin color? - THE HENRY DOGS:www.fiapbt.net/black.html                                                                SECTIONS 1 and 2 SECTION 1º - The ADBA is the Canine Mother to International scope and the institution that handles the Official Pedigree (papers) to the American Pit Bull Terrier purebredanywhere in the world.            ADBA Conformation event in Canada.                                                                                       ADBA Conformation event in Italy.                                                                                            ADBA Conformation event in Spain. ADBA Official Judge Mr. Daniele Rizzacasa from Italy.                                                                                   As an example of the efforts that the ADBA are doing to maintain the TRUTH and the PURITY in the dogs of our breed dog, to say that the ADBA in many dogs of T. Garner does not give him the Pedigree (papers) because are false, being this the reason why T. Garner did his own "registry". Therefore, if the ADBA is who give the Official Pedigree (papers) and some dishonest breeders do not give them, this would mean that the Official Pedigree (papers) protects the TRUTH and the PURITY the breed in many cases.http://www.fiapbt.net/sdr.html                                                                                              ADBA Conformation event in Colombia. The work developed by the ADBA by the Pit Bull, is very important, necessary and beneficial for the breed and their true fans. It is true and it is clear that the ADBA does this work within their means and can not get it the 100%, since the ADBA can not control with all the cheats and liars, but this problem is not the fault of the ADBA, this is fault of some false and unscrupulous people, that doing the disgusting practice of forgery and deceit, being in nowadays exactly the same problem plaguing to the rest of Canine Mothers of any other breed of Dogs, Cats, Horses, Roosters, Cows, etc. and in none way means that be have to justify the discredit of the Official Pedigree of each one of the pure breeds existing, because some people are irresponsible and malicious, Right?               ADBA Conformation event in Spain. Judge Mr. Luigi Bezzi.                         ADBA Conformation Event in USA, celebrating the 100th Anniversary of the ADBA (1909 - 2009)                                                             ADBA Conformation event in South Africa. ADBA Official Judge Mr. Hank Greenwood from USA.  It is also true that the ADBA within of its registry, some malicious people have cast some mixed dogs and Bullies like Pit Bull pure, but this is something that currently own theADBA is researching and studying, to override the pedigree of those dogs that get find and certainly are not American Pit Bull Terrier purebred. This ADBA attitude in my point of view, it is humbling to recognize such error and is also commendable to rectify the mistakes, despite stop receiving money to perform various applications, they would have received if they had not rectified the errors. This attitude on the part of those who run the ADBA, in my opinion it is aimed to a great conservation and welfare of purebred and their fans. I think that any fan that feel real love for the pure breed dog American Pit Bull Terrier, they should feel happy and grateful to the ADBAfor the enormous and laborious work done by our dogs since the year 1909. THANKS!!!     Pit Bull Pedigree (papers) = ADBA = Pit Bull Canine Mother at International scope = Pedigrees control and not validate false Pedigrees = Excellent and honest ADBA job trying to keep the TRUTH and maintain alive the Official Genealogy of the breed in over the time = Keep alive Officially the Pit Bull defence in various aspects, so that the children of our grandchildren will can continue enjoying them when the time comes. In the ADBA, not only competes in Weight Pulling and Conformation events, also are doing ADBA “Top Dog” event: http://www.adbadog.com/p_pdeta....                                                     Left to right “MISS PATCHES” (“DINAMITA”), “RED AKER” and “RED KROM” SECTION 2º - I think that is easy and very coward throw rocks toward to the honor and the work of a lifetime of the people, especially when they can not longer to defence himself for to be dead. In nowadays, some malicious swindlers (and some gossipers, ignorant, charlatans, without personality nor own criteria, with delusions of grandeur and wisdom), which discredit unfairly excellent APBT genetic (APBT bloodlines) that currently exist, for the simple fact that come from Carver and dogs from other breeders. The reason for many of these injuries is to get now to sell better the dogs of the people who injure, among other interests. Usually, the dogs of these individuals come from other different genetic that them injuries, because considering them a strong competition for them, or simply because them are not unaware where come their dogs, without even knowing if it are purebred or not, but that gives them just, so long to get his objective, swindle and have a deplorable attitude.                             Maurice Carver with “STOMPANATO”                                                                                                     These elements without a minimum of ethics and education mock and discredit the Pedigrees, where the word and honor have been put by thousands of breeders of yesteryear and today; They mock and discredit the Canine Mother of the breed, the ADBA; They mock and discredit the work of a lifetime of several breeders like Maurice Carver; And they mock and discredit any other matter that would can reach unmask their real intention, which is none other thing than to deceive and try to convince the greatest possible amount of fans, to get bring them to their way like if the APBT fan being sheep, to swindle them later in one or another way. I'm not saying that Carver was a saint, no, but if in nowadays we take for valid what say some gossipers without evidences, that Maurice Carver falsified pedigrees, then F. Boudreaux, R. Morales, Womack, Mountain man, Dany Burton, Weldon Stockton, Dwight Stubbs, Ronnie Hyde, Don Maloney, Eddie Klaus, James Crenshaw, David Koehlers, Enrique Morfin, Jim Twardowski (R Gang 's), Gary Hammonds, William Lacefield, Pat Patrick, Sorrells, Don Mayfield, Greenwood, O. Stevens, Mc. Cool, and many other honest and reputable breeders – dogmen of the time, which many of their dogs come from dogs Carver, and then and in the same and unjust rule of three that anybody has been exposing here and others places against Carver, also we must assume that all these dogmen named are equally counterfeiters and fraudsters, because his dogs descended from Carver dogs, and if here and now there are people who claim that Carver was a liar for falsified pedigrees, these honest breeders – dogmen that I mentioned also would knew it, and them should know it better, with more certainty and reliability that those that are saying injuries against Carver here and now in 2014, Right? Let´s be serious, gentlemen!!! If the breeders – dogmen that I mentioned before and others many more, to put his word and honor in his Pedigrees (papers) like had been performing throughout life, giving faith like TRUTH the Pedigrees ADBA of their dogs, is another more way to show that the Carver dogs that appeared like ancestors of their dogs in the Pedigree (papers), was certainly TRUTH the way they were bred and not lie like say some gossipers.                                                                Examples a, b, c, d, e, about this last:                                               R. Morales and his son with "LUPE". Morales was the greatest exponent introducer of "The BLACKS" in Mexico. a) BOUDREAUX' “LUPE” was an excellent female bred by Maurice Carver, which Carver gave it to R. Morales, a friend of his close circle, and R. Morales when he abandoned the dogs gave "LUPE" like Gift to his friend F. Boudreaux. This is a very reliable way to understanding that R. Morales and F. Boudreaux attested that Carver was an honest breeder, because by using in his own breeding R. Morales and F. Boudreaux dogs from Carver, is because they relied on the Carver's honesty like breeder, because otherwise, they would both equally attesting that they were also forgers Pedigrees or at least that accept this disgusting practice, which comes to be the same thing.BOUDREAUX' “LUPE” FIAPBT Pedigree Online: http://www.fiapbtpedigree.com/imprimi....4114 Or the same with BOUDREAUX´ “T-BELL”.BOUDREAUX´ “T-BELL” FIAPBT Pedigree Online: http://www.fiapbtpedigree.com/imprimi....4129 Or equally with “MIDNIGHT COWBOY”.“MIDNIGHT COWBOY” FIAPBT Pedigree Online: http://www.fiapbtpedigree.com/imprimi....6 b) If GREENWOOD'S "RUBEN", which was an excellent animal, whose grandparents were Carver dogs, is a way to show that Greenwood testified that Carver was an honest breeder, because by using in their own breeding a dogs from Carver, was because he trust in the honesty of Carver like breeder, because otherwise, he would be giving equal validity posthumously, that it was also a forger Pedigrees or at least accept this disgusting practice, which comes to be the same thing.GREENWOOD'S “RUBEN” FIAPBT Pedigree Online: http://www.fiapbtpedigree.com/imprimi....2 c) If the maternal grandmother Dog of Don Mayfield called "PIT GENERAL" was a bitch bred by Maurice Carver, is a way to show that Don Mayfield testified that Carver was an honest breeder, because by using in their own breeding a dogs from Carver, was because he trust in the honesty of Carver like breeder, because otherwise, he would be giving equal validity posthumously, that it was also a forger Pedigrees or at least accept this disgusting practice, which comes to be the same thing.MAYFIELD'S (BURTON) “PIT GENERAL” FIAPBT Pedigree Online: http://www.fiapbtpedigree.com/imprimi....6386 Or equally, if the maternal grandmother of Don Mayfield female called MAYFIELD'S "SPRING" was a bitch bred by Maurice Carver, is a other similar way to show that posthumously Mayfield testified that Carver was an honest breeder.MAYFIELD'S “SPRING” FIAPBT Pedigree Online: http://www.fiapbtpedigree.com/imprimi....42   Or equally, if the maternal and paternal grandmother of Don Mayfield female called MAYFIELD'S "GATOR" was a bitch bred by Maurice Carver, is other way to show that posthumously Mayfield testified that Carver was an honest breeder.MAYFIELD'S “GATOR” FIAPBT Pedigree Online: http://www.fiapbtpedigree.com/imprimi....7    Or equally with MAYFIELD'S “SNAKE 2”.MAYFIELD'S “GATOR” FIAPBT Pedigree Online: http://www.fiapbtpedigree.com/imprimi....         Some of the best breeders - dogmen oldtimers of the breed history, which backed to the ADBA registering their dogs in the ADBA. Left to right and up; Leo Kinard, Maurice Carver, Bert Clouse in the back of Earl Tudor, Bob Hemphill, Bob Wallace, George Saddler. Down; Floyd Boudreaux, Rob Lewis, Don Maloney and Scotty Nelson. Photo taken Oct. 29, 1966.d) Even I also put into question my honesty, by the unjust rule of three that some gossipers with bad intention have exposed lightly in public places, because I use some 100% Carver dogs in much of my breeding Villa Liberty kennels, for example VILLA LIBERTY'S "TUDOR DIBO".For the part that touches me and although I said that in my opinion Maurice Carver was not a saint, I have no evidences that justify that Maurice Carver falsified Pedigrees. If I had any proof about it, of course I would not have decided to breed and select Carver dogs since 30 years ago. By contrast, over time yes I've had enough evidences that there have been and there are some gossips with bad intention, a pity especially for them... VILLA LIBERTY'S “TUDOR DIBO” FIAPBT Pedigree Online: http://www.fiapbtpedigree.com/imprimi....  e) Or equally for example, attested for the Maurice Carver honesty those breeders who used in their respective breedings in one or another way the followings American Pit Bull Terrier: CARVER´S (KLAUS) “ZEKE,”CARVER'S (HYDE´S) SATCH, (CARVER'S) LONG´S BABY  (mother of MIDNIGHT COWBOY ) , (CARVER´s) HYDE´S “BLOODY SUNDAY”,(CARVER'S) HUNTER´S SAM , CARVER'S (MORFIN) RED LADY, (CARVER'S) TOM´S BIG BLACK, HOOTEN'S BUTCHER BOY , (CARVER'S) HUNTER TANA,(CARVER´S ) DAVIS´ BOOMERANG , (CARVER'S) LONG´S TUFFY, (CARVER´S) R. MORALES´ BLACK LADY (NEGRITA), LARA'S ODIN (CARVER & MORFIN),CARVER´S (MORALES´) ALACRAN, (CARVER´S) ROREX'  BLACK LADY,  (CARVER´S) INDIAN BOLIO, (CARVER´S) HUNTER'S RED BUCK, HOOTEN'S'  SNAKE,STINSON'S TUFFY, (CARVER´S) CLAYTON'S JAVA, And many more: http://www.villaliberty.org/criacarver.htm Personally I have never believed in the gossipers, nor in the gossipers that repeat like parrots with bad intention about what they heard saying by others gossipers with misconduct for personal gain and so on. I do not believe anything about these unfair and cowardly gossip against the breeders - dogmen that I mentioned before. About the breeders - dogmen already mentioned, yes I do believe in their work of a lifetime dedicated to the American Pit Bull Terrier and especially I believe in his excellent dogs, both ascending scale as the descendant of their Official Pedigrees (papers), because if they Registered all their Pit Bull with its ADBA Official pedigree, would be by a some important reason, Right? All they would have answered with a YES to the question of AMERICAN PIT BULL TERRIER with Pedigree ¿Yes or No? Recall and enjoy with part of the work and with some major great moments in the Silver Fox life with the American Pit Bull Terrier, Maurice Carver:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4DnGJAMZDw&hl=es&gl=ES -- http://www.fiapbt.net/museumc....-- http sometimes the worst enemy of the breed are not the people anti Pit Bull, PETA, the mass media, politicians, the fci, the akc, or BSL, no, sometimes the worst enemy of the breed are some of his own "fans", which are not really fans of the breed, they are fans of the easy money, to the deceit, to the not correct, to the misconduct and fraud.                                         TRIBUTE TO Mr. D. STUBBS                                         May 30, 1998, Phoenix, Arizona, U.S.A., The “DIBO´s” cradleIn the picture, Mariano Peinado with his good friend Mr. Dwight Stubbs, with his dog “DIBO´s” family called Heinzl´s (Stubbs) "Ollie” with the same color buckskin from "DIBO".  "Ollie” was at that time 12 years, he was a great reproducer. "Ollie” was the father of very good dogs such as Nowell's “Lil Independent”, (Stubbs) "Mrs. Heinzl”, etc. "Ollie" was still alive at that time, was one of the best American Pit Bull Terrier bred by the Reverend Howard Heinzl. Mr. Stubbs, kept the dogs and the genetics of his good friend the Reverend when he died in 1989 of stomach cancer. Mr. Stubbs also enjoyed much breeding descendants of Carver's  (Davis) “Midnight Cowboy”, from Boudreaux' “Maverick”." Mr. Stubbs, a great dogmen and exceptional people, all a gentleman. Good job Mr. Stubbs!!! Thank you!!! It makes no sense to have an attitude always on the defensive, for a wrong that alleged to have not committed, Right? Unless, that yes has committed or will be want to committing something bad and then, all this yes have a logical reason that attitude, of being defensive for to lie more and better.In Spain there is a saying, "The thief thinks everyone is like him." I believe that honesty and truth exist today more than ever in many people and in many breeders, and for much effort and many times that put some people to saying otherwise, it will not mean that they are right. I believe that everyone creates and runs their own destiny, based on their attitude and on the DECISIONS that is taking every day in their life. You decide!!!  I hope and I wish that no one will take the hint by my words with this work, because my intention was not to offend or upset anyone in particular, I just tried to contribute positively and humbly with my review from the heart and with good intentions, for the fans and especially for our dogs. Finally say, that given the large amount of diverse information that I offer in this work, it may be that there is some imprecision of some kind, if it is so, I apologize in advance.However, I have a great satisfaction to understand that the main essence of the message of this work, which I wanted to make, has been well exposed enough, with my wish to try that bury absurd old grudges between some people and all together, the real fans of the breed dog American Pit Bull Terrier with good intentions, with the ADBA all together we will work properly for the future of the breed, so that the children of our grandchildren can also continue to enjoy with these noble and wonderful animals forever.         THANK YOU!!!        Mariano Peinado     IADCRO & FIAPBT@ FIAPBT RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE FUTURE OWNERS OF AMERICAN PIT BULL TERRIER@ THE AMERICAN PIT BULL TERRIER ORIGINS: http://www.fiapbt.net/origins.html  @ WHY DO SOME PEOPLE THINK THE APBT IS NOT A RECOGNIZED BREED? http://www.fiapbt.net/notrecognized.html 

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The American Pit Bull Terrier Online Pedigree is a study or informative mode, it is not the Official Pedigree.                  Caution with the swindlers!!!  F    I    A    P    B    T         FIAPBT  FIAPBTWORKS THAT MAY BE WOULD BE OF YOUR INTEREST ABOUT THE AMERICAN PIT BULL TERRIER @ GENETIC OF THE LEGEND TO CALLED “MAURICE CARVER” AND TRIBUTE: www.villaliberty.org/legend.html @ TRIBUTE TO MAURICE CARVER IN VIDEO: www.youtube.com/watch?hl=es&gl=ES&v=M4DnGJAMZDw @ MAURICE CARVER MUSEUM: www.fiapbt.net/museumcarver.html @ BLOODLINES? THE “OLD FAMILY RED NOSE” (OFRN):www.fiapbt.net/ingles17.html     @ DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE AMERICAN PIT BULL TERRIER AND ITS DERIVATIONS TODAY, THE AST AND THE SBT: www.fiapbt.net/ingles16.html @ THE AMERICAN PIT BULL TERRIER ORIGINS: www.fiapbt.net/origins.html   @ THE CHARACTER OF THE AMERICAN PIT BULL TERRIER: www.fiapbt.net/character.html @ GENETIC AND GRAPH STUDY OF THE BESTS APBT OF ALL THE TIMES: http://www.facebook.com/notes....6175089 @ WHAT NOBODY HAS WRITED ABOUT THE BEST APBT OF ALL TIMES, TUDOR´S “DIBO”The true history about Tudor´s “Dibo”:  http://translate.google.es/transla....act=url (This is a literal translation by the Internet translator, sorry)(Original report in Spanish: www.fiapbt.net/historiadibo.html )  @ “THE BLACKS” HISTORY: www.villaliberty.org/theblacks.html @ THE BLACKS VIDEO: www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=afVsbawKASA   @  VIDEO. THE ELI DOGS FUNDATION, BOUDREAUX' ELI - THE LEGENDhttp://youtu.be/rwICO0MPc78@ Whence comes the BLACK color to ELI / CARVER / BOUDREAUX dogs, being that they all are Tudor's "DIBO" family and "DIBO" was buckskin color? - The HENRY´s Dogs: http://www.fiapbt.net/black.html @ CARVER'S  (DAVIS) MIDNIGHT COWBOY: http://www.villaliberty.org/midnightcowboy..html @ AMERICAN PIT BULL TERRIER with Pedigree ¿Yes or No?: www.fiapbt.net/pedigreeyes.html@ THE AMERICAN PIT BULL TERRIER, A PURE BREED DOG: http://www.fiapbt.net/purebreeddog.htm @ APBT OFFICIAL PEDIGREE: http://www.fiapbt.net/officialpedigree.html   @ THE AMERICAN PIT BULL TERRIER BEGINNINGS IN THE CINEMAhttp://www.fiapbt.net/pitbullcine2.html  @ MISCELLANEOUS INFORMATION ABOUT THE AMERICAN PIT BULL TERRIER: www.villaliberty.org/information.html      www.fiapbt.net/dibo.html               FIAPBT Pedigree Online: TUDORS “DIBO”                          Online Pedigree: TUDOR´S “DIBO”                       FIAPBT Pedigree Online: BOUDREAUX' “ELI”                                  Online Pedigree: BOUDREAUX´ “ELI”                   FIAPBT Pedigree Online: WALLING'S “BULLYSON”                            Online Pedigree: WALLING'S “BULLYSON”                     FIAPBT Pedigree Online: BOUDREAUX' “BLIND BILLY”                               Online Pedigree: BOUDREAUX' “BLIND BILLY”                           FIAPBT Pedigree Online: CLAYTON'S “ELI JR”                                         Online Pedigree: CLAYTON'S “ELI JR”                                   FIAPBT Pedigree Online: CLEMMONS' “BRENDY”                                        Online Pedigree: CLEMMONS' “BRENDY”                         FIAPBT Pedigree Online: CARVER'S  (DAVIS) “MIDNIGHT COWBOY”                                 Online Pedigree: CARVER'S  (DAVIS) “MIDNIGHT COWBOY”     .                         FIAPBT Pedigree Online: CARVER'S (HYDE´S) “BLOODY SUNDAY”                                 Online Pedigree: CARVER'S (HYDE´S) “BLOODY SUNDAY”                     FIAPBT Pedigree Online: (CARVER´S) MORALES “NEGRA” (BOUDREAUX' “LUPE”)                             Online Pedigree: (CARVER´S) MORALES “NEGRA” (BOUDREAUX' “LUPE”)                                                               FIAPBT Pedigree Online: SMITH & WILLIAM'S “REUBEN”                                              Online Pedigree: SMITH & WILLIAM'S “REUBEN”                                FIAPBT Pedigree Online: VILLA LIBERTY´S "TUDOR DIBO" (“Mr. “Ronnie”)                                 Online Pedigree: VILLA LIBERTY´S "TUDOR DIBO" (“Mr. “Ronnie”)                                           FIAPBT Pedigree Online: “CHINAMAN”                                                          O nline Pedigree: “CHINAMAN”                                                                                              FIAPBT Pedigree Onli ne: (CARVER´S) R. MORALES´ “BLACK LADY” (NEGRITA)     Online Pedigree: (CARVER´S) R. MORALES´ “BLACK LADY” (NEGRITA) (No existe en esta base de datos.)                                           FIAPBT Pedigree Online: “BOUDREAUX” (BULLYSON)                                                          O nline Pedigree: “BOUDREAUX” (BULLYSON)                                              FIAPBT Pedigree Online: CH MARRERO'S “PICHE”                                           FIAPBT Pedigree Online: CANARIASPIT'S “BAGHEERA”                                                        Online Pedigree: CANARIASPIT'S “BAGHEERA”                                               FIAPBT Pedigree Online: “BOUDREAX” (Montana)                                                             O nline Pedigree: “BOUDREAX” (Montana)                                             FIAPBT Pedigree Online: GR CH CHAVEZ' “LLANTAS”                                                           Online Pedigree: GR CH CHAVEZ' “LLANTAS”                                              FIAPBT Pedigree Online: CH VTK'S “MR. HANKEY”                                                           Online Pedigree: CH VTK'S “MR. HANKEY”                                              FIAPBT Pedigree Online: GR CH CHIP'S “SLASHER”                                                           Online Pedigree: GR CH CHIP'S “SLASHER”                                           FIAPBT Pedigree Online: CH HOK'S “LIZA II” (BIG GIRL)                                                        Online Pedigree: CH HOK'S “LIZA II” (BIG GIRL)                                                  FIAPBT Pedigree Online: CH LNK'S “GINNY”                                                                Online Pedigree: CH LNK'S “GINNY”                                            FIAPBT Pedigree Online: BOUDREAUX' “BADGER”                                                          Online Pedigree: BOUDREAUX' “BADGER”                                           FIAPBT Pedigree Online: BOUDREAUX' “MISS SKULL”                                                        Online Pedigree: BOUDREAUX' “MISS SKULL”                                                                     FIAPBT Pedigree Online: BOUDREAUX' “SKULL”                                                          Online Pedigree: BOUDREAUX' “SKULL”                                                                   FIAPBT Pedigree Online:  BOUDREAUX' “SCREAM”                                                          Online Pedigree: BOUDREAUX' “SCREAM”                                                                  FIAPBT Pedigree Online: BOUDREAUX' “MAVERICK”                                                       Online Pedigree: BOUDREAUX' “MAVERICK”                                              FIAPBT Pedigree Online: “COWGIRL 2”                                                            Online Pedigree: “COWGIRL 2”                                                                           FIAPBT Pedigree Online: VILLA LIBERTY´S “LADY CARVER 2”                                               Online Pedigree: VILLA LIBERTY´S “LADY CARVER 2”                                                                             FIAPBT Pedigree Online: VILLA LIBERTY´S “COWBOY 4”                                                     Online Pedigree: VILLA LIBERTY´S “COWBOY 4”  The American Pit Bull Terrier Online Pedigree is a study or informative mode, it is not the Official Pedigree.                  Caution with the swindlers!!!    F    I    A    P    B    T  FIAPBT  FIAPBTFIAPBT GENEALOGICAL SECTION REGISTRY OF SECURITY                                                                                                     FIAPBT Pedigree  www.fiapbtpedigree.comFIAPBT Pedigree for to learn pure genetic or blood of the American Pit Bull Terrier (APBT or PIT BULL): www.fiapbtpedigree.com/?idm=en In this FIAPBT GENEALOGICAL SECTION REGISTRY OF SECURITY called FIAPBT Pedigree, you will be able; To study the different ramifications genetic of this wonderful and the noble breed dog, the American Pit Bull Terrier (APBT); To see APBT historical pictures never seen previously in publish; To help to fight the criminalization that the BSL realises; To create easily the pedigree online of your dog or the litters that you have; etc.In order to be able to enjoy these services, simply you must to register through www.fiapbtpedigree.com with the option the Spanish and Englishlanguage. This new FIAPBT GENEALOGICAL SECTION REGISTRY OF SECURITY, the FIAPBT Pedigree, will be in continuous development by the FIAPBT, for its constant improvement.So that you can have an example in view, and go away familiarizing with the data base of the FIAPBT, we showed you the link of CH “PATCHES”:Villa Liberty´s CH “Patches”  http://www.fiapbtpedigree.com/imprimi....) Villa Liberty´s CH “Patches”  http://www.fiapbtpedigree.com/imprimi....      F IAPBT DELEGATIONS                                    ---------------------------------------------------------------In order to see the FIAPBT Pedigree Online, you doing clic in the photo or in the dogs names.In order to see the FIAPBT Pedigree Online and pictures, you must doing clic in its corresponding name. Once within his Pedigree Online, you can realise your own genetic study in your own way. for example doing clic in the names of the parents, will be able to also visualize its FIAPBT Pedigree Online of four generations, in which if you doing clic in its pictures, will be open in greater size so that it is possible to be seen better the dogs. Following in Pedigree Online and doing clic in the names of the APBT that appear in ascending scale, you can get to find or track the dogs that you want to study or investigate up to two centuries back, until the years of the 1800, a barbarism of generations, more controlled than the own people. This great amount of genetic information is something unpublished, surprising and exclusive, that only own our wonderful and noble breed dog, the American Pit Bull Terrier.                                   * FIAPBT PEDIGREE ONLINE, for to learn pure genetic or blood of the American Pit Bull Terrier (APBT or PIT BULL):  www.fiapbt.net/fiapbtpeds.html --www.fiapbtpedigree.com/?idm=enIn order to facilitate the genetic study of the dogs and the breed itself, also we add to the fans the Online Pedigree database to facilitate his study, because theOnline Pedigree could facilitate the genetic study those fans, which are accustomed to do it through of this database. However we must clarify, that this database the genetic study is more confusing, more annoying, more incomplete and less reliable by various factors, which come it because of malicious and unscrupulous people, who for various dark interests them stain and harm the honorable name and efforts being made for over 10 years ago by the Online Pedigree owner. These negative and various factors that are affecting the database Online Pedigree, for the experimented dogman in the breed genetics and those who have been affected directly in them, is well known it for them, and they know very well what we are talking about. Some of these negative factors are for example: Registers of mixed dogs like pure APBT; Registers of Bullies or similars like pure APBT; Fake registers of dogs that do not correspond with the reality; Registers of dogs that no exists to deceive or swindle to the fans; Be made countless of duplicate records for the same dog with dark purposes, etc., etc. These drawbacks in the databaseFIAPBT Pedigree Online are very low or zero, due to the strict monitoring and control that is constantly performed by dogman amply qualified to preserve the breed purity.

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